But, if you look at the Matrix for example. There's a lot of robots out there, don't you agree?
Actually, I saw that movie yesterday, after eight years. It was just as good as the first time I saw it. I think I saw it 2 or 3 times, but like I said, that was 8 years ago. That movie makes me tick, because it's a fascinating thought. You can't say 'it's not like that', well, I don't think it's like that, but I can't prove that it isn't.
I think it's pretty much like the BE-concept. This is not a movie that tries to tell you that this is how it is. It's just a way of making the puzzle work out.
I think that's something that recurs in basically every religion. I think that one of the points I was trying to make with BE is, that every religion known to man must by default be incorrect. There is no way that any human religion can be correct or right. That was my first 'point of departure'. And then that everything goes in circles, the creator becomes the created and the created becomes the creator. All the creation comes from a deep desire to understand the 'self'. So exploring other things is basically a way of exploring yourself.
Suddenly the door opens and Simon and Léo enter
Well, it seems we're joined by even more people here..
.. Just so you know, the level of the conversation will be lowered drastically now *laughs*
Simon: *grins* .. Okay, let's go home Léo.. *They turn around and leave again*
Thank you for interrupting!
*laughter*
Anyway, one of the other things I've spend a lot of thoughts on is Communism. The original idea, I mean. Not the way it's practiced. I would like to know what your thoughts are on this. Do you think it might work?
I think the general idea is very nice. Even though I feel I'm not read up enough to sit and have opinions about 'this is really good' and 'this is really bad'. What we see today is not good.
The general idea of Communism was to share everything and treat everything with equal respect.
Yeah, and I mean, the world we see today that is not Communism is not good. Capitalism is just not good. It has been tried so many times in the past and it always leads to cultural collapse in the end. When some people have huge amounts and some people have basically nothing, it's bound to go haywire. You could say it's a law of socio-politics.
I think Communism is going to return under another name, just like Capitalism. It's a matter of either thinking collectively or thinking individually and that has always gone back and forth in the history of mankind.
Because when some people get access to more and more, it feels kinda good, you know. And the ones who don't have, they will be impressed by the ones who have and that will work for a certain amount of time. But it always leads to more violence and social tension and in the end it has to fail and society will take on a new shape or form.
It's kind of annoying knowing that you always live in a society that is bound to die. It will transform into something else and somewhere in the future, we don't really know how far or close, but somewhere in the near future the way of living, as we know it, will change.
So the Mayan theories, about 2012, would you say those are correct?
Nah.. I've said several times, that, for me, if you look at an environmental point of view, I think 2007 has been a turning point. Or a tipping point. I think up until that point, we always talked about what could happen if we'd do this or that. And I think in 2007 it started to happen. It turned from being something that was in the future into something that has started now.
All photographs by Nina Voronova.